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Chronicling the development of my Cambrian and Narrow Gauge 4mm scale model railway


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Never trust domeless engines…

So says Gordon on meeting City of Truro, before going on to lose his own.

The only drawing for the GWR Cathedral is this one which isn’t even Hawksworth’s work.

Hawksworth Pacific

It shows a really odd arrangement. The dome is where the safety valves on a GWR loco normally go, and there is a top feed but no safety valves shown.

The more I read about Hawksworth, the more I realise he was a true Western man. With that in mind I cannot believe he would have put a dome on his Pacific on the grounds that he could use an elongated King boiler and still have the regulator at the top of the Belpaire box and put the safety valves where they normally go.

Nick Parsons also had the same thought when he built his Cathedral because he put the safety valves in the normal position above the centre driving wheels, and put the dome between the bonnet and the start of the Belpaire box. Roger Meadows also didn’t agree with the concept drawing and did his with no dome at all.

Given Hawksworth’s Great Western-ness, and my belief he would strive for the best Swindon solution, I have decided my Cathedral won’t have a dome (but will be fully lined like Nick Parsons’ version).


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Final pieces

So the jigsaw has all the pieces. Last week a delivery arrived with the final parts (ok this may not be true) needed for the Hawksworth Cathedral.

parts 2Final pieces are the new 5 pole tender drive (it’s from Henry hence the GREEN wheels), new blackened rods for a a Princess and blackened crossheads, slidebars, and connecting rods for a King , loco crew and lamps from Springside. The lamps are correctly white, not red as the GW had rectified this oddity by the time Hawksworth was in charge.

Now I just need to build the jigsaw…..


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Counting the days…

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The lack of recent activity both on here and on the modelling front has been precipitated by a house move. However we are now in the new H family house and it has space. Oh yes it has space…

Anyway, I haven’t been idle with getting bits for the Cathedral project.

Here are the latest bits. This County body and tender body I picked up for next to nothing on eBay due to a slightly melted firebox side sheet caused by an overheating motor.

However as I want it for the cab (which is slightly different from a Collett one) and for the double chimney, this is perfect.

So now I’m counting the days till the house is in a sufficient state of unpackedness for me to have a modelling day.

Also I now have another tender body so maybe another Modified Hall. Sod Hall perhaps.


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The Bishop of Where?

The crew of the Thunderbolt await the inspector at Mallingford (Bristol Temple Meads)

The crew of the Thunderbolt await the inspector at Mallingford (Bristol Temple Meads)

For those of you with a pedigree of railways and railway films, the quote above will be all too familiar. The Titfield Thunderbolt’s inspection run crewed by the dog collar brigade, grey shirt at the controls, purple shirt firing.

As you may have noticed from my earlier posts I do like an oddity or a might have been. One day I would like to produce the Titfield Thunderbolt set but the title of this post is actually because I want to discuss a might have been linked to bishops – the Great Western Cathedrals.

Hawksworth Pacific

Despite being born, brought up, and living in Yorkshire I do like the Great Western. The influence for that is my father who was born and brought up in Gloucester so was innundated with GW and LMS designs. His Uncle was signalman at Yeovil Junction so he saw a fair bit of Southern action too but the only LNER types he saw were the odd BXX classes occasionally coming through on CrossCountry workings. So our model railway at home when I was growing up was GW mainline with a station on the beach (complete with mermaid).

The Great Western did things first and generally rather well (up until the 1930s, and had it not been for the war they probably would have been the first to electrify a mainline. Unfortunately in the 1930s and 40s they trod water and lost ground).

The first British Pacific - No. 111 The Great Bear

The first British Pacific – GWR No. 111 The Great Bear

The Cathedral class was Hawksworth’s Pacific design which he produced in 1946. Unfortunately post war economies and impending nationalisation meant it never emerged although looking at the GA you would be forgiven to think he’d nicked the design from a certain Mr Stanier FRS (which given they were contemporaries at Swindon it is highly likely Stanier used his position to develop the ideas he and Hawksworth had developed together). There is no definitive record that the class would have been called after cathedrals but various modellers who have produced them have taken this suggestion and made it reality (Actually the Kings were supposed to have been Cathedrals but if you’re going to send your new loco to the US why not remind them they’re not part of the Commonwealth?!).

Modelling a Cathedral is relatively straightforward. The recipe is below and in the pictures linked.

Ingredients:

1x Hornby Princess Royal

1x Hornby King body and front bogie

1x Hawksworth tender (Dapol or Hornby)

1x Princess dome

1x King smokebox door

1x pair of King buffers

Various pieces of plasticard

Method:

Replace dome with safety valve bonnet from the King. Add new dome further up the boiler (note this isn’t as per the original drawing but most modellers prefer the idea of keeping a bonnet). Replace chimney with GW double chimney from King. Replace cab and backhead with GW one from King. Replace front bogie with the one from King. Replace smokebox door with a King one (either the one off the King or buy a new Hornby spares one). Move reverser rod from LHS to RHS. Replace slidebars and cylinders with ones from King, Add buffers. Make fire-iron tunnel on RHS footpate. Replace whistles with GW ones from King. Remove outside Walchearts valve gear. Sell LMS tender on eBay. Add Hawksworth tender.

Various people have tried this and two known examples are Roger Meadows No. 8000 Gloucester Cathedral, and Nick Parson’s No. 8001 Exeter Cathedral. They have some detail differences but the main build is the same. There is also something of a step by step guide on the RM Web here.

Artist's impression of GWR Cathedral from OS Nock's book Stars, Castles, and Kings

Artist’s impression of GWR Cathedral from OS Nock’s book Stars, Castles, and Kings

I like a good story (you may have noticed). With this in mind I thought it might be worth sorting out the fleet list given two of them already exist (and there is already confusion over what name 8001 carries). So here is my suggestion. The first batch of 5 was built and given West Country Cathedral names. The second batch of 5 was built following the success of the first batch and given West Midlands route Cathedral names. The final batch of 10 were named after the Welsh Cathedrals, which left four to be named after other notable English Cathedrals.

8000 Gloucester Cathedral
8001 Exeter Cathedral
8002 Bristol Cathedral
8003 Truro Cathedral
8004 Wells Cathedral
8005 Birmingham Cathedral
8006 Chester Cathedral
8007 Hereford Cathedral
8008 Oxford Cathedral
8009 Worcester Cathedral
8010 Bangor Cathedral
8011 Brecon Cathedral
8012 Llandaff Cathedral
8013 Newport Cathedral
8014 St Asaph Cathedral
8015 St David’s Cathedral
8016 Canterbury Cathedral
8017 Southwark Cathedral
8018 St Paul’s Cathedral
8019 York Minster

So yes, one day I will build one. And yes, I’m a Yorkshireman, so it’ll be 8019. Apart from anything else, a Cathedral class locomotive not called Something “Cathedral” is an oddity in an oddity.